1 | complied from neighborhood listening session and emails from 2009 |
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3 | parking and traffic |
4 | need more parking |
5 | increased traffic a concern |
6 | more bike racks at trail heads |
7 | There is no public parking at Hardscabble trailhead so remove parking symbol there on map handouts. |
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9 | |
10 | litter and waste |
11 | dogpoop a problem |
12 | dog latrine further from trail head |
13 | trash an issue |
14 | compost high use areas |
15 | use biodegradable bags for poop |
16 | |
17 | privacy |
18 | privacy an issue |
19 | undesignated trail Shanahan area impacts our privacy, |
20 | People have been using my property and driveway to gain access to West Highland Park |
21 | |
22 | noise |
23 | noise rarely mentioned |
24 | |
25 | safety |
26 | neighbor's house was shot by a stray bullet from the Shanahan property, which is right below the Big Bluestem trails |
27 | |
28 | access - convenient and sustainable |
29 | access in South Boulder is great |
30 | Make sure there are parking areas and trailheads, away from peoples homes |
31 | keep neighborhood access |
32 | need diversity of access |
33 | more limited acess |
34 | more bus access |
35 | have more neighborhood access to spread people out and reduce parking issues |
36 | |
37 | Other concerns |
38 | invasion of privacy an issue |
39 | property damage |
40 | bears and mtn. lions |
41 | |
42 | public ideas |
43 | |
44 | Dog ideas |
45 | V+S tag program - have a test for understanding, after the video is over, and before you can sign up to get a tag. Make it a simple multiple choice, ten question test. The respondents have to get 8 of the questions correct to qualify for a V+S tag. |
46 | demonstrate V&S control of your dog to "official" |
47 | Have trash cans, poop bag dispensers and signage at the end of the trailhead leashing distance. |
48 | dogs remain on leash at the beginning of the trails that pass by houses |
49 | Require dogs to be leashed in the first 300 ft of trailheads. This is where most dogs do their business, so owners will be more likely to pick up their poo. |
50 | maintain and expand voice & sight areas near neighborhoods |
51 | volunteer maintenance - trash poop pickup - adopt a trail |
52 | Volunteer dog patrols. Have two volunteers with their dogs walking the trails. The way they approach people is simply offer help. For example: I noticed your dog just pooped. Would you like a bag to pick it up? They would carry business cards with info about the V+S tag program and the rules. |
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54 | Trail ideas |
55 | want loop trails |
56 | want trail diversity |
57 | want trail connectivity |
58 | Build trail from Mesa/Shadow Canyon/Big Blue area to Shirttail peak |
59 | Have trails that are only for: horses; or mountain bikes; or dog walkers. |
60 | trails designated one-way to minimize clashes (could alternate on different days even=clockwise, odd=counterclockwise) |
61 | Use split rail fences to mark off sensitive areas. |
62 | |
63 | Bike ideas |
64 | mountain bike access from Baseline into the south trail systems. |
65 | best strategy is to create separate bike trails x2 |
66 | build north-south mtn. bike trail |
67 | |
68 | Other ideas |
69 | Suggest diverting land acquisition dollars to trail building, access, impact mitigation and maintenance. |
70 | Communication of local cultural interest spots, natural wonders, and/or conservation issues in the immediate area of each trailhead Information board. |
Thursday, July 29, 2010
Neighborhood Feedback Table
3 comments:
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This web site needs to be change immediately. It is so complex and confusing I would guess that the vast majority of viewers will be unable to use it.
ReplyDeleteYou need to be a scholar to figure out how to use it. In writing this, after spending 15 minutes trying to guess what the web site designer intended, i still have no idea whether this is the correct comment area. Who ever designed this, please get back to me with some plan to simplify it.
Saying that my name is Dan Friedlander. I live at 2945 Lafayette Drive, Boulder CO 80305. My comment on mountain bike use is that we need to continue to allow focus on using the open space as a means of giving access to our neighbors, people from throughout Boulder and the Front Range and visitors from afar, to nature. If we opened more trails to mountain biking we would help destroy this bond (I speak from experience because I have several times been almost wiped out by mountain bikers hurdling down the Dowdly Draw trails).
Note, I am both a hiker and a mountain biker myself. But I am not a dare devil mountain biker. Given the steepness/narrowness/obstacles of the trails between Shanahan Ridge and Eldorado Springs I am convinced that most of the mountain bike users would be the extreme type. This would immediately create big conflicts with hikers and bikers. It would not liberate these trails for the lets get from one place to another place over an unpaved trail type of bikers. Besides, if this was allowed I believe that the bikers would dominate and this could easily set the stage this beautiful area to become a national mountain bike meccca (like Eldorado Spring is for rock climbing). If this happens this area would become the undisputed domain of the extreme sports enthusiasts. Is this our intent?
Now there may be an alternative. Perhaps there is a way to build an entirely separate mountain bike trail systems designed to meet the needs of this group. I believe this was accomplished in part with the separate bike path at the bob o link trail on Baseline. Perhaps the devoted mountain bike groups would finance this.
Best,
Dan Friedlander
I apologize. This page was mistakenly switched with the homepage. This has now been fixed.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure if this is the correct place for my comments, but I will put them here and hope readers can figure out my intent. My name is Julie Zahniser. I am a Mesa trail walker with aging knees and a mountain biker. As a South Boulder resident at 3782 Telluride Lane, I greatly appreciate both the foresight of having the high density development here in Shanahan Ridge 5 townhomes where I live, and the easy access to the Boulder Open Space Trail system. The Shanahan trails which loop around and through the forest and to connect with the Mesa Trail are some of the most valuable assets of the entire Boulder Trail system. These trails span a variety of ecosystems and range from relatively flat, wide, and easy-to-walk-on paths to narrower, rougher trails, thus providing opportunities for a variety of types of hikers, runners, and walkers to utilize and enjoy them. Individuals, families, and groups with children and dogs frequent these trails. This area is characterized by a diversity of plant and animal life, including incredible cricket and frog choruses which can be heard and appreciated because the South Mesa-Shanahan area is typically peaceful and quiet.
ReplyDeleteI enjoy riding my mountain bike on the Marshall Mesa, Dowdy Draw, and the other recently developed trails in the Eldorado area south of Boulder. If you look at the entirety of Boulder County from Lyons to Eldorado Springs, it is clear that there are many miles of mountain bike trails to be ridden. These trails were designed specifically for the wear and tear of mountain bikes which are hard on trails. Depending on weather conditions, mountain bikes can quickly make trails rutted and more difficult to walk on, and they require work to maintain. In the Shanahan-Mesa area the relatively smooth trails would be vulnerable to damage from mountain bikes. Mountain bikes move fast, especially downhill, and would be hazardous to walkers and hikers who are not able respond quickly, especially the less physically able walkers who can currently enjoy S. Boulder trails. Mountain bikes would also pose hazards to the great many who use S. Boulder trails as a place to walk their dogs.
I do not think that all trails in the Boulder area need to be mountain bike accessible. However, I could see the feasibility of a compromise of making the lowest north-south Shanahan Trail that goes along the lower forest border and heads toward Eldorado being designated a multi-use trail for both biking and walking. This would provide a non-highway access to Eldorado trails but would maintain the upper trails and their relatively serene character for present and future generations to enjoy.