Sunday, June 27, 2010

Mountain Biking: Supportive Comments

139 comments:

  1. C. Archer 3235 Longwood South Neighborhood

    I fully support the creation of a MTB trail from Chatacqua to Eldorado. Given the objections voiced in the Camera letters page, I would prefer an entirely new trail that is open to all users but with an emphasis for MTBs.

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  2. In today's Daily Camera I see this headline:
    "Boulder woman cited in bicycle-car collision"
    Once again, a cyclist is smacked by a car. This is why we need more trails open to mountain bikes. I am terrified of riding bicycles on the road. Cars are a major threat to my life (and my wife and kids) every time they pass. EVERY time.
    Mountain biking gives my family a place to ride safely out of reach of distracted/angry/hurried automobile operators, many of whom are against mountain biking.
    Steve Gaudin
    South Neighborhood
    Endicott Drive
    Boulder

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  3. I am not a "West of Broadway" resident, and must admit I resent the notion that I get less input into the process than those in that group, when the trails at issue belong equally to everyone in Boulder, and my tax dollars support them just as much as the West of Broadway folks.

    That said, we have a resource in Boulder that should be enjoyed by everyone. All uses should be permitted within certain limits. While I am not in favor of many of the existing trails being opened to mountain biking, the mountain biking community is more than willing to build new trails, and this can be done while protecting the user experience of neighborhood dwellers and hikers. I am strongly in favor of a north-south connector so that mountain bikers who live in Boulder can realistically have a "mountain bike from home" experience. I feel that the creation of such an experience will not impact neighborhood groups because most of the bikers will not need to park in the neighborhood.

    Dan Steuer
    4645 Talbot Dr.

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  4. Clearly hikers and runners would prefer not to share existing trails with bikes and that is understandable. Biking on trails where you constantly have to dismount, yield, watch for dogs, etc. isn't all that enjoyable for bikers either.

    Boulder is often designated one of the best outdoor towns to live, which definitely holds true for hikers, runners, climbers, and road bikers...everyone except mountain bikers.

    Having just spent 4 days mountain biking in Steamboat Springs it was amazing to have 3 solid days’ worth of biking trails right from town to ride. Each day was over 10+ miles of trails in a different area and very fun trails as well, not 5 foot wide dirt paths like out by Boulder Reservoir.

    There is literally a mile of land between South Boulder neighborhoods and the base of the peaks/Flatirons, a new bike trail would only require 2 to 3 feet, the narrower the better. A new north/south trail linking Chataqua, or ideally Lee Hill, to Eldo would be amazing and allow bikers to ride from town to link up with Eldo/Marshall Mesa/Doudy Draw. Two to three feet in the vast West TSA area shouldn’t be too much to ask for.

    Rex Headd
    East Boulder (formerly South Boulder at Lehigh and Iliff)
    Kalmia and 28th

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  5. I live up in Dakota Ridge so I have some access to trails out to Boulder Reservoir, however I would really like to see North Foothills Trail open to mountain bikes. My 9 year old son ride a lot right from our home. I am trying to teach him that he can ride from town, but there are far too few choices.

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  6. As a mountain biker, hiker and dog owner I am able to see the trails from several different points of view. I do not propose opening Mesa trail to bikes. This would cause an extreme amount of user conflict, however I propose a separate trail built by mtbikers for mtbikers that would go N to S to hook up with the Eldo/Marshall Mesa area.

    There is plenty of room for all users without angering runners/hikers/dog owners while at the same time pleasing the mtbike crowd.

    Chris Cook
    3295 34th street
    Boulder, CO 80301

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  7. I have lived in Shanahan ridge for years now, and often use the hiking trails with my wife and two small children. In fact, the trail system and the easy access was the main reason we decided to buy a place in this neighborhood - I love it!
    Yet I have often lamented the fact that there is not a single bike trail in this vast trail system. I sooo strongly support the creation of biking options, and am very happy and grateful to see that there is some consideration of this, and that this forum has been put in place - thank you!
    Most mountain bike trails are not an easy access from Boulder - in fact, I often find myself driving to Lyons with the bikes on the roof to get access to a trail. I believe sharing a public space will always call for a reasonable amount of compromise, and am therefore open to compromise solutions (see my comments under that heading). But compromise should ideally be extended from both sides, so we can meet each other halfway, and all enjoy the trails and the beauty of this part of Boulder.
    Providing bike access to downtown along the foothills (via Chatauqua) would be wonderful too, and induce more people to bike rather than drive downtown from South Boulder.
    In closing, thanks again, and I am sure a solution can be found where we can provide some bike access and still have happy hikers and dog lovers.

    Pieter Oosthuizen
    3232 Redstone Lane
    South Boulder

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  8. I live west of Broadway and am a mountain biker. I rarely use our open space because of mountain bike restrictions. I end up driving to Nederland, Larimer or Jeffco to ride. It is strange for a town that stresses alternate modes of transportation, to push me into my car to other communities to ride. I ride to work everyday, and the few times I use my car are because of the lack of opportunities here. This situation is pretty common amongst the riders in town.
    I understand there are issues and people are dead set against a change to the status quo. If there is a trail, it should be a mountain bike only trail, or there will be user conflict, and a never ending management issue for OSMP.
    Bobby Noyes
    2439 10th St. "North"

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  9. I live in South Boulder and would like to be able to mountain bike from my home without the use of a car. There is plenty of room for people to share, but I've heard extreme opposition to shared use trails in this area. This implies the need for a separate "preferred use bike" or "bike only" trail to connect the city core to the Marshal Mesa and Eldorado areas.

    Of course, a 'new' trail brings up another set of environmental impact concerns. Please don't let this turn into a catch-22. If we can learn to share, we can minimize trails. If people are unwilling to share even a fraction of trails, we have to build new trails which will have some environmental impact.

    I am open to either option, but I do not like people who position the issue as bikes can't share trails b/c of user conflict but we can't build new trails b/c of environmental impacts. Let's look for a way to say yes to fair and responsible access that serves an evidenced need of the part of the neighborhood and Boulder at large.

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  10. Like some of those that have already posted, I'm somewhat confused as to why those living west of Broadway have more influence over trails in Boulder County than those living to the East. I own a home in Boulder, pay taxes in Boulder, and ride my bike in Boulder. So, I will certainly comment on an issue that concerns MTB access in Boulder.

    As a frequent visitor to the MTB trails in Boulder County, I find that there are basically only 3-4 mountain trails available within riding distance of town: Betasso, Walker, Marshall/Doudy, and to a lesser extent Heil. On the other hand, there are a great number of hiking trails within close proximity to town that are not open to bikes. It seems quite simple to me that if more trails were open to bikes, there would be less congestion on the trails that are currently open to bikes.

    Lastly, I believe that alternate use days are a viable solution to trail user conflict. However, any new solutions will need to have bike-only days, AND hike-only days. The discriminatory WED/SAT bike ban at Betasso is not only unfair, but it simply acts to increase congestion on the other 3 MTB trails that I mentioned previously. Please consider these comments as we seek a "compromise" solution to open more MTB trail access in South Boulder.

    Sincerely,

    Doug Schuler
    3300 Euclid
    Boulder, CO

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  11. live in South Boulder and would like to be able to mountain bike from my home without the use of a car. There is plenty of room for people to share, but I've heard extreme opposition to shared use trails in this area. This implies the need for a separate "preferred use bike" or "bike only" trail to connect the city core to the Marshal Mesa and Eldorado areas.

    Of course, a 'new' trail brings up another set of environmental impact concerns. Please don't let this turn into a catch-22. If we can learn to share, we can minimize trails. If people are unwilling to share even a fraction of trails, we have to build new trails which will have some environmental impact.

    I am open to either option, but I do not like people who position the issue as bikes can't share trails b/c of user conflict but we can't build new trails b/c of environmental impacts. Let's look for a way to say yes to fair and responsible access that serves an evidenced need of the part of the neighborhood and Boulder at large.

    Jason Vogel
    1245 Berea Drive
    South Neighborhood

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  12. I support a solution for MTB users to access south boulder trails without driving/riding on roads. We are a responsible, tax paying part of boulder and need safe alternatives to access the marshall mesa area.

    Kyle
    west of broadway

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  13. I live in Martin Acres just a block across from the open space by NOAA and used to live for 6 years on the west side of Broadway. I've been mountain biking for years in the South Boulder area and would love to have a trail connecting from the Doudy Draw / Eldorado Springs area to Chautauqua. I have also been hiking for years on the trails west of Broadway and enjoy both activities. A new fair alternate day use trail would go a long way towards alleviating congestion on the few other mountain bike trails in the South Boulder area. Usage continues to rise especially on the Marshall / Doudy Draw / Springbrook by both hikers and bikers. A coordinated alternative day schedule with Betasso, a new or shared Mesa trail, and Doudy / Springbrook would be hugely beneficial to both hikers and bikers. Both bikers and hikers having to stop multiple times during their outings can be very frustrating and lead to conflicts. There has been a huge increase in ridership in the past 4 years and it is simply going to lead to conflicts if we do not add more wisely shared trails to our system.

    Keagan Rowley
    145 S. 34th Street
    South Boulder

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  14. isaac stokes
    3555 darley ave, 8035 - SOUTH

    I would love to see some limited and fair access for mt bikes connecting from Chautauqua to Eldo area trails. Thanks.

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  15. I live in East Boulder Near Foothills and Baseline. I recently moved back to Boulder from Breckenridge where the in town and near town riding possibilities are endless. I have always felt that trail regulations in the city of Boulder were unfair to mountain bike riders. A trail system connecting Eldorado to Chataqua would not only benefit mtb bike riders but also hikers, dog walkers and horse back riders as it would relieve congestion at other open space areas. Also, has there been a discussion of allowing mtn bike riders on closed trails at night with light systems? They practice this in Northern California.

    Mike G
    Morgan Drive
    Boulder, CO

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  16. south neighborhood, T.Wilcox, 1197 Bear Mountain Drive.

    I would love to be able to access trails in the west TSA as links or in their own right, by bicycle, from Chataqua to Eldorado/Springbrook. Trailhead access within the south boulder neighborhoods should be restricted to walk/bike access only (no new parking lots) to minimize the impact of increased traffic in the neighborhood.

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  17. I completely support the creation of a new mountain bike trail from Chautauqua to Eldorado Springs. I would be willing and happy to help build such a trail; open to all users with a focus on mountain biking to provide north to south access.

    Jonathan Caine
    836 Walnut Street
    Boulder, CO, 80302

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  18. I also support a mountain bike trail from the Chautauqua area connecting to the Eldorado Springs road. There is more than enough land to create a "parallel Mesa Trail" that would have minimal impact on hikers, runners, and horseback riders.

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  19. It’s high time a designated cycling trail be built to connect Eldorado and Boulder. The fact that children cannot ride their bikes to the Eldorado pool safely is an embarrassment.

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  20. I support the creation of a north south corridor for bicycles. This corridor would primarily serve those who live in these neighborhoods so they can ride from their homes on to dirt and to the sough Boulder trail system where they can get a quality mountain bike user experience that without the use of a car. This trail, while significant and vital to those living in the area, will never be a 'destination' ride. People will not drive from Brighton and park at Chautauqua to ride to the south system.

    We also request the green light to pursue a multi use trail from Eldorado Canyon STate Park to Walker Ranch and beyond.

    These requests are asking for access to less than 10% of the existing trail system.

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  21. While I do not live in the West TSA Neighborhood, I am a frequent visitor of my open space lands. I enjoy trail running and biking in the natural beauty of Boulder. Both activities are excellent low impact ways to enjoy nature responsibly and to maintain a healthy lifestyle. A bike MTB trail from Chautauqua to Eldo Canyon is only fair to a large, responsible user group that currently has no access to this area and thus no ability to connect the northern areas of Boulder with the southern areas by trail. The city should be doing everything it can to encourage fair usage for ALL user groups of the land they manage in all of our interests. There are currently over 70 miles of trails in the West TSA - certainly the city can allocate a small percentage to the large MTB community.

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  22. I am a hiker, dog walker, road- and mountain cyclist and understand that this is a complicated issue. With the demands on open space, adding another bike trial to the system is not a straightforward task.

    Boulder has a low proportion of single-track compared to other towns in the area. Adding a dedicated south north trail shouldn't be insurmountable and I am full support of this effort.

    Thanks for this opportunity to voice my opinion,
    Johan Erasmus
    985 Laramie Blvd
    Boulder 80304

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  23. I am a resident West of Broadway, and my in-laws live here, all of us support creating more paths for traveling around Boulder. On foot or Mountain Bike. Cycling is a healthy fun activity that should be supported, not looked down upon. Not all mountain bikers are meat-head adrenaline junkies, I'm an adult female who loves being outside. Sometimes that means riding my bike on rough trails.

    Thank you,
    Kathie Hausle
    2330 Dennison Lane
    Boulder, CO 80305
    South Neighborhood

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  24. First off, thanks for this open and transparent area where I can provide comment. I really appreciate all the hard work by the West TSA neighborhood reps!!!

    Let me say it clearly - I fully support a moderate level of mountain bike access in the West TSA. It is the fair and right thing to do.

    The Visitor Master Plan, the governing document for Boulder's open space, recognizes mountain bikes as a valid form of recreation. In practice, OSMP has *not* carried out the VMP. Mountain bikes deserve equitable access in the West TSA. Period. What's fair is fair. Completely displacing mountain bikes to fringe areas of Boulder's open spaces is not fair.

    1-3 trails with mtn bike access in the West TSA will have negligible impact on the environment. 1-3 trails with mtn bike access will still leave something like 90% of the West TSA as hiker- and equestrian-only trails. If 10% access for a significant user group isn't considered, I will certainly lose my faith that the people of Boulder can get past their prejudices and do what is only fair - provide some access to mountain bikes in the West TSA.

    I should also point out that forcing people who recreate on bike to get in a car and leave the city is in complete opposition to Boulder's principles of carbon neutrality and multi-modal transportation. Put your trails were your mouth is - if Boulder wants to discourage car use, they should DO something about it.

    The West TSA presents an awesome opportunity to give mountain bikes a fair shake, while also revamping the trail system for the modern age. With appropriate sight lines and water-shedding features, OSMP can reduce the chance of user conflict while also creating trails which are self-maintaining. All interests can be served in the West TSA.

    Andria Bilich
    South neighborhood
    1245 Berea Drive

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  25. I live near the East Boulder Rec Center but like many people I hike and run on the great trails between the Flatirons and Eldorado Springs. When I want to mountain bike I take the bike path to the South Boulder Creek dirt trail to Marshall Mesa which makes all the difference in my enjoyment of the ride.

    For so many safety & recreational reasons a bike trail corridor from Central/Downtown Boulder to the South trail system is long overdue. A bike-oriented route parallel to the Mesa trail is a reasonable option if sharing the Mesa trail w/other user groups is not desirable or feasible.

    When someone hears I'm from Boulder they assume we can ride our mountain bikes safely and easily around this beautiful and active-lifestyle area. Boulder has put in large amounts of resources and effort to be one of only 3 Platinum Bike Friendly cities in the US. It's great to have connecting bike paths, bus racks, bike lanes, etc but it's surprising and embarrassing that we cannot ride our trails from town.

    H. Goldberg
    600 Manhattan Dr. #C9
    Boulder, CO 80303

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  26. I live West of Broadway in the South Neighborhood. I would love the opportunity to easily ride from my home to Marshal Mesa/Doudy Draw/Eldorado Springs area without getting on roads.

    I would equally love to ride north to downtown and onwards to either Betasso or Heil Ranch without having to get on roads or end up driving.

    No one likes to share initially -- ask any kid with a toy -- but we are adults and we should be able to come up with a solution for everyone.

    Scott Graham
    1297 Berea Dr

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  27. I'm a City of Boulder resident and I highly value access to the West TSA trail system. At a minimum, the West TSA area should include one north-south connector open to bicycles. The addition of one or two shared-use loop trails is highly preferable and wouldn't need to increase the already-high trail density in this area. (I also believe the final West TSA plan should consolidate hiking use to fewer, well-designed routes; there are too many eroded hiking trails and too many trails in general.) Based on the best available science, including research funded by the National Park Service (see Marion, Jeffrey), bicycle trails cause no more widening or erosion than hiking trails. The key, as all trailbuilding professionals know, is proper trail construction. This is an excellent opportunity for the open space department and volunteers to showcase sustainable trailbuilding techniques. Studies on the social impacts of human-powered recreation aren't as complete, but what research has been performed indicates that users who come in contact with bicyclists on a trail actually have a _more positive_ opinion of shared-use trails than those who didn't come in contact with a bicyclist. Shared-use trails are successful all over the world and the West TSA provides an ideal setting for bicyclists and hikers to enjoy the outdoors.

    Drew Vankat
    24th St in "East Boulder"

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  28. When my husband and I moved to South Boulder from the DC-area last October, we were disappointed to learn how many trails were off-limits to mountain bikers. As a result, we've found ourselves having to drive to many of our favorite trails-- a habit we'd hoped to break by living in a smaller mountain town.

    So I speak for both of us when I say I strongly support the addition of a mountain biking trail to the open space west of Broadway. Even restricted access-- like only allowing mt. bikes on certain days-- would be better than nothing, and would help us cut our carbon footprint.

    I have yet to meet a Boulder mountain biker who isn't environmentally conscious, well educated about trail use, and extremely considerate toward other users. Allowing mountain bikers in this area only increases the number of stewards who care about that land.

    I live in Martin Acres, but run/hike the trails around Skunk Canyon at least 3 times a week, so I hope you'll consider my views.

    Amy Marquis
    2715 Elm Ave.
    Boulder, CO 80305

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  29. Steve Cann
    575 Utica Ave.
    NW Boulder

    I fully support the creation of a mountain bike access-allowed or a primarily mountain bike trail from Chatauqua south to Eldorado Canyon. I would also support opening the N.Foothills trail to mountain bikes north of its present intersection with the Hogback Loop trail, connecting if possible down to near the Neva road trailhead.

    The mesa trail has too high use to allow mtb's, but I think the no bikes section of the N.Foothills trail sees relatively little use.

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  30. Ryan Balciar
    850 W Moorhead Circle
    South Boulder
    I spend a lot of time traveling with my mountain bike. It is disheartening to come home to a town that lacks single track. I like to hike as well, and thoroughly understand the need for mountain bike free trails as well, yet the amount of single track that is accessible from town without a car is frustrating. Opening a trail from the West TSA to Walker Ranch will afford local riders a local epic ride. Opening new trails will help to relieve the pressure on the current trail system. Boulder County is attracting many mountain bikers, for better or worse, and I don't imagine this is going to change. I think the real answer lies in more trails and less trailheads.

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  31. As a trail runner, climber, and mtn biker, I feel the addition of a new connector from Chautauqua to Eldo/Marshall Mesa is one of the best improvements the City could add to our Open Space. The Marshal Mesa trail system is proof that there is demand for more local trails open to mtn bikes, and the mtn bike community seems to be very willing to provide labor, maintenance, and education to get more access and reduce conflicts.

    In my opinion, any improvement that encourages people to get out and enjoy our Open Space, as well as limit driving to and from trailheads, is a good one. It all needs to be done in a manner that will reduce user conflicts, but I am confident that can be achieved with proper planning and education. Improving mtn bike access close to Boulder is something I am happy to put my tax dollars towards.

    Curtis Stevens
    Berea Dr
    South Boulder

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  32. I support the creation of a new mountain bike trail from Chautauqua to Eldorado Springs.

    Andy Pemberton
    10th St.
    North Boulder

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  33. As a west of Broadway resident, I strongly support mountain bike access west of Broadway, both for recreation and safety of car-less commuters like myself. I run, hike and ride mountain bikes - and as a 3rd Generation Coloradan raised in Jefferson County, I know trails can be shared safely.

    If needed, hiking only trails are great, I run southwest Boulder trails all winter, snow or shine. Bikes really only need one route, and while i would enjoy riding several, from a commuting standpoint, only one is really required. This can help spread the level of activity in such an active community. I do not support parking areas, if people want to ride the trails, they can ride to them, Boulder has a great bike path network and there is no need to drive to ride. Community off road trails should link up with the existing extensive paved paths to help commuters enjoy crossing town while increasing the safety of both cars and bikes. Different forms of transit need careful integration from a design standpoint, and offering an off road alternative is a good solution.

    From an urban planning perspective, not allowing bicycles on off road trails west of Broadway is not a "Green" planning policy. I have no car, and use my mountain bike for all my commuting, in combination with the bus. While this might be seen as the extreme now to some people, in many parts of the world this is the norm and the green future of Boulder has more people using mass transit and human powered transportation than cars. Imagine how quiet and peaceful all of our neighborhoods would be without any internal combustion transportation.

    While there is a bike path along Broadway south, it includes riding on a frontage road and crossing many busy automobile intersections along Broadway which is a high speed collector street. I have seen accidents and near misses with cars and bikes that in some cases could be avoided if alternative off road paths were provided.

    We need a longer view of these issues, and I think in a community that prides itself on moving towards sustainability, cycling both on and off road must be included.

    Brian Fuentes
    www.fuentesdesign.com
    812 20th St. #9

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  34. I support the creation of a new mountain bike trail from Chautauqua to Eldorado Springs.


    Greg Thomas
    833 Lincoln St.
    Boulder, CO 80302

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  35. I support a north / south mountain bike trail connector. Mountain bikers are a large, and for the most part a community- and environmentally-conscious user group, yet there are very few trails accessible by bike from town. A north/south mountain bike trail connector would be a step in the right direction for Boulder.

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  36. Gabe Leap
    4622 18th street
    Boulder CO 80304

    I live in north boulder and ride the foothills trail all the time. It would be great to ride all the way to Eldo, Betasso, or Walker on a trail.

    I fully support additional trail access for bikes in whatever form. Mountain bikers do not want to exclude anyone. Boulder should be a leader in access and inclusion not trying to catch up.

    We all pay taxes. We all like the mountains. But we gotta share. My three year old has difficulty sharing, but he is three so he gets a pass.

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  37. Kevin Lambert, 4294 Greenbriar, South Neighborhood

    Reading all the above comments, I will simply add comment in support of opening up to MTB access. If narrow narrow single track trails can be developed, all the better for recreation - narrow to minimize impact and it does lessen some traffic.

    If there are cross over areas with high runner/hiker/dog/bike traffic, I'd simply suggest to consider mixed and scheduled use like Centennial Cone. Perhaps on high traffic weekend days, there can be alternating days between bikers and hikers to strike a balance.

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  38. I totally support a new MT bike trail from Baseline to Eldorado Springs.
    I'm a mother of young kids and I need recreation oppotunities that are both local and exciting. Otherwise we are going to produce the next generation of kids who believe that you have to get in the car to leave the house and believe that the most exciting way to spend their time is infront of the TV. Local MT biking is a perfect answer to these issues, so PLEASE Boulder, help us parents out.

    Eleanor Needy
    34th and Baseline
    80303

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  39. As frequent users of many of Boulder’s trails my family and I often witness the congestion that makes it difficult for everyone.

    Creating a "by-pass" for MTB users parallel to the current Mesa trail is a great idea. It relieves congestion, opens up our beautiful city to it’s residents and keeps cars off the road.

    The irony should not be lost on anyone of us that although our city is always ranked at the top of the Cycling “best of” lists we have almost nothing for MTB riders within the city limits. (Thanks for DD/Springbrook trail BTW)

    Our City Council istens to its residents and this blog is a powerful force.

    Chuck Sanson
    Central/South Neighborhood

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  40. Boulder needs a good mountain bike trail network for it's residents and stature as a global outdoor city of high recognition. I fully support a trail or trails leading from the city limits south and north to other trails. I believe the best solution is new trails that will not conflict with other user groups. Based on the support of other cycling projects by the community I am sure there would be enormous support. The network of paved bicycle paths, and bike lanes is great, and they appear to be fully utilized. I believe creating dirt, MTB trails will see the same utility by the residents of this unique city that we are all proud to call home. Building a trail seems like a natural extension of the fabric of this city.

    Bruce Hodgkins
    3025 6th St.

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  41. I am a hiker and mountain biker that would like to see increased access for mountain biking on the West TSA lands. Access should be created through a common sense approach that gives consideration and respect to the core desires of each user group.

    As a home owner, manager, and aspiring business owner, I think it is imperative for Boulder Open Space to accept mountain biking as part of its outdoor recreation ethic in order to maintain Boulder's status as THE place to live, work, and play for the energetic, outdoors loving up-and-comers that are our current and future community leaders.

    Boulder is a WORLD leader in providing a high quality of life to its residents, which has resulted in one of the most productive, creative, well educated working populations in this nation. Boulder's remarkable quality of life is largely a result of the diverse and superior recreation opportunities available to residents.

    Mountain biking has proven to be compatible with the land and other users. Hard science and success stories from around the country bear this out.

    Mountain biking has been identified by the Outdoor Industry Association as the #1 gateway to outdoor recreation. In a society that increasingly values passive, indoor recreation over outdoor options, mountain biking has proven to be the bridge that gets people off of the couch and out into nature.

    Even the National Park Service, where allowing mountain bike access to National Parks has historically taken a literal act of congress, is working to make it easier to provide mountain bike access in recognition of the need to provide greater relevance to generations that are losing interest in the outdoors.

    There are over 12,000,000 mountain bike enthusiasts in the US. The average member of the International Mountain Bicycling Association, according to a survey conducted in 2010 by Leisure Trends, is in their early 40's, has a household income of over $100,000, and a college degree with a white collar job. 30% have post-graduate degrees. This is the demographic that cities across the country are fighting to attract and retain, and it's largely the demographic that keeps Boulder vibrant and competitive.

    If Boulder wishes to continue attracting and retaining our nation's best and brightest, the City must continue to lead the way in providing an excellent quality of life that appeals to our current residents and Boulder's next generation of idealists, entrepreneurs, and leaders. This can only be done through a comprehensive plan for trail-user management that provides great trail experiences to all users in the silent sports community.

    There are cites throughout the Rocky Mountains, and the US in general, that have overcome the challenges of providing great trail opportunities, easily accessible from the urban core, to the varied users of the silent sport community. They succeed by putting aside long held prejudices and applying a common sense approach to user management on their open spaces. These places include: Jackson, Wyoming; Park City, Utah; Ogden, Utah; Draper, Utah; Flagstaff, Arizona; St. George/Hurricane, Utah; Prescott, Arizona; Phoenix, Arizona; Sedona, Arizona; Fort Collins, Colorado; Salida, Colorado; Grand Junction, Colorado; Hood River, Oregon; Salem, Oregon; Bend, Oregon; Hot Springs, Arkansas; Asheville, North Carolina; State College, Pennsylvania; Washington D.C and the list goes on and on. These havens of outdoor recreation, and direct competitors to Boulder in terms of quality workforce attraction and retention, have overcome their differences to create remarkable trail systems for all trail users.

    It is time for Boulder to learn from our peers, overcome our differences, and work to create a great place for all non-motorized trail enthusiasts.

    Ryan Schutz
    Aikins Way
    East Boulder

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  42. I support opening the MTB access. I think it's a great idea.

    Zach
    Central Boulder

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  43. I fully support a new MT bike from Baseline to Eldorado Springs.
    As an avid bike and bus commuter, the only reason that I regularly drive is to enable me to ride my MT bike. This is a constant source of frustration, and also a loss off my money when I spend it near the trailheads I accompany for lunch, refueling, shopping, etc.
    I thank you very much for the trail network Boulder has to offer and it does allow me to take in the beauty of what our town has to offer, however I do find myself having to leave when its time for a off road ride.
    Tom Needy
    Boulder Co.
    34th & Baseline

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  44. I fully support the trail building and agree with a previous poster that, "There is more than enough land to create a "parallel Mesa Trail" that would have minimal impact on hikers, runners, and horseback riders."

    (on another note-as a taxpaying boulder resident, i use the trails every single day. living in m.a. i don't understand why i have less of a say in this trail system then others...)

    Anne
    S 36th St
    E Boulder

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  45. It would be fantastic to have an accessible mountain bike trail to the west of town. I agree that allowing bikes on the mesa trail is not a great option.

    I extensively use some of the north boulder trails open to bikes (north of wonderland lake) that connect to the trails around the reservoir, and these are a great resource.

    A trail parallel to the mesa trail to the south would allow mountain bike loops around boulder, and enable commuting by mountain bike away from cars.

    Andrew Gettelman
    4th Street
    North Neighborhood

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  46. As a hiker, running and cyclist I fully support new trails on the west side of Boulder. For all the open space the city owns, which all of us have paid for, there is realtively little options to mountain bike from Boulder (mainly Betaso). Yes it is better then it use to be, thanks to the new options south of town, but for a great cycling city like Boulder we can do more.

    CJ Gauss
    3228 11th Street
    Boulder, CO 80304

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  47. Considering that Boulder has such great nearby access to so many mountain activities, it's amazing one has to put their mountain bike in their car and drive to get to a MTB trail!

    I've lived in other cities where bikers share the trails with hikers and although it's not as ideal as a trail only for MTBs, it's still better than having to drive to get to a MTB trail.

    Either work out some kind of system for bikers and hikers to share the trails, even on a trial basis, or construct a MTB-only trail that can be accessed from within Boulder by biking to the trailhead. Of course, the trail should be made to minimize damage to the environment.

    Phil
    27th St
    so close to Broadway as to be considered "Central"

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  48. As a Boulder resident, and more recently a homeowner, I've always loved the beauty and natural character of the Flatirons and the mountain parks west of Broadway. Throughout the years, I've explored those areas by myself and with friends and family.

    I strongly support a mountain biking opportunity in this area because it will provide another way for Boulder residents and visitors to appreciate one of our greatest natural resources. Based on my understanding of current science, the impact of mountain bikes is equal to that of hiking, when the trails are built sustainably. Given the fact that many of the trails in the Chautauqua area are steep old mining trails, a new, sustainable trail might provide a good example of how recreational trails can blend into the landscape without undue harm.

    The trails and parks unite us all -- exclusivity has no place in public lands planning, provided we aren't risking the integrity of the resource.

    Thanks for reading,

    Spencer Powlison
    2625 Tabriz Pl #D22
    Boulder, CO 80304
    East Boulder

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  49. I am a South Boulder road and mountain biker, hiker, and dog walker. I'm a frequent user of the trails leaving Doudy Draw, Flatirons Vista, and Marshal Mesa. In practice, this is my only option for singletrack without driving. I support a new mountain bike trail from South Boulder parallel to the Mesa Trail. Ideally this would be bike-only, since there are many hike-only options in the area.

    Dan Marsh
    1145 Edinboro Dr
    South Neighborhood

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  50. I live in Dakota Ridge and have 2 year old twins that are already riding their strider bikes on the trails at the edge of the neighborhood. It would be great to have more local trails accessible to them as they grow older so we don't have to put them in the car to drive somewhere to ride. I also commute to work in south Boulder and would frequently use a mountain bike trail that connects north and south Boulder.

    Eric Ray
    295 Laramie Blvd

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  51. I support a new (or at least non Mesa Trail)north-south trail primarily for use by mountain bikers. The trail would not in my opinion visually impact the area if the trail is made narrow (which it should be narrow anyway). As the new trail would not be on the Mesa Trail, it should not bother hikers or cause pedestrian conflicts. Over the years, mountain bikers have become much more mature and responsible--they even have volunteers patrol the trails to the benefit of not only mountain bikers but also the community at large. Given my age and the probable time it would take to get a new trail approved and built, I doubt that I would personally ever use the new trail. However, I think this would be a great amenity for others.

    Rich Nehls
    385 Overlook Drive
    Boulder, CO 80305
    Central Neighborhood

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  52. I am a Table Mesa resident and a mountain biker as well as a hiker, runner, and road cyclist. I very much enjoy having access to hiking/walking trails in South Boulder that are not open to mountain biking and would like to keep them that way. Going for a walk or hike is a lot more peaceful when you aren't worried about mountain bikes bearing down on you or not yielding to you (and unfortunately, many don't). Personally I have seen a lot of irresponsible mountain bikers ride Marshall Mesa, Springbok and other South Boulder trails in wet conditions and really tear them up, especially this past winter. Nevertheless, I think it would be good to have a mountain bike only trail in South Boulder to link to other existing trails so that mountain bikers don't have to drive so far to get a ride in.
    Thanks,
    Diana Gibson
    1325 Drexel Street
    Boulder, CO 80305

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  53. I am a west of broadway resident, and I would fully and wholeheartedly support a trail from Chatauqua to Eldo. Anytime I can be away from traffic is a good thing! Let's stop putting in expensive & dangerous flashing light crosswalks and allow trails instead!

    Chris C
    N. Cedar Brook Road
    Boulder

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  54. Ben Greenwood
    Martin Acres - East Boulder

    I fully support the creation of a north - south dirt trail open to mountain bikers along the foothills. I also support the creation of a MTB trail link-up from eldorado state park to walker ranch. Mountain bikers represent a large community in Boulder yet very few trails are open to them.

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  55. South Neighborhood 3045 Redstone Lane

    I fully support the creation of a MTB trail from Chatacqua to Eldorado. Given the objections voiced in the Camera letters page, I would prefer an entirely new trail that is open to all users but with an emphasis for MTBs.

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  56. We believe that mountain biking belongs in the West TSA open space as it is a reasonable, healthy, and energy conserving way to enjoy nature. Many studies exist which clearly demonstrate that mountain biking on properly constructed and managed trails is no more damaging than hiking or running.

    We have lived directly on city open space for the last thirty years and can understand the apprehensions of some regarding this subject. We had many of the same concerns as the route, just sixty feet behind our house, was improved for access by all types of users including bikes. Simply stated, our concerns were misplaced. We just haven’t encountered any significant problems in these many years and we feel both our quality of life and property value have been enhanced.

    Clearly, problems can come from any type of trail user. However, in hundreds of hours of annual trail use, over many years, as both hikers and bikers, we have come to believe that actual risks from other users of any type is typically overstated. More likely risks are blisters, thorns, snake and insect bites, or injury from the occasional stumble. Unfortunately, we have come to believe that frustration with simply sharing the trail with other types of users is at the root of most concerns.

    All users—people on foot, bikers, and dog walkers—should share in access to our West TSA open space. Surely, some level of reasonable accommodation can be made for all these tax paying supporters of Boulder open space.

    James and Nancy Lackey
    North Neighborhood
    747 Quince Circle
    Boulder, CO 80304

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  57. As a long-time runner, mountain biker, and Shanahan Ridge resident, I support allowing mountain bikes on trails connecting Shanahan Ridge with Eldorado Springs. Since moving to Shanahan Ridge in 1986 I have ridden 2+ miles of asphalt to reach the nearest dirt trail, or packed up my car and driven to trails further away. I look forward to hitting the dirt in 2 blocks.

    For non-residents, parking is available at South Boulder Rec Center, and Fairview HS, churches, and elementary school lots might be leveraged for appropriate hours during the day and week.

    Some experts believe that horses cause more damage than cyclists or hikers, and yet horses still frequent many trails. In my experience, erosion results from inadequate or nonexistent trail maintenance. I trust the proposal recognizes the need for adequate maintenance.

    As for potential conflicts between cyclists and other users, many trails in Boulder county already allow cyclists to coexist with hikers and horses. Why should conflicts be worse on Shanahan Ridge? These trails are not steeper or narrower that other multi-use trails in the county, although a few new trail sections could reduce multi-use congestion and seems like a good idea.

    Best Regards,

    Dave Heard
    3620 Silver Plume Lane

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  58. At least some access / connecting trails for bikes would be great!

    Michael Zerella
    2755 Dartmouth Ave.

    Central Neighborhood

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  59. I support the addition of mountain bike- friendly trails with easy access from town.

    Kim Raby
    4th and Pearl
    North Neighborhood

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  60. I fully support mountain biking in this area. I do believe it is reasonable to create a new trail so the biker/hiker/runner relations remain strong. The different types of use also support different types of trails, and the area is poised to be one of the best/most accessible ways for people in the area to enjoy what Boulder has to offer.

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  61. I strongly support a mtn. bike trail in the region from Baseline to Eldo. It's been said before and I'll say it again that Boulder simply doesn't have access to decent mtn. biking or even mtn. bike-friendly trails that get cyclists from point A to Point B. Boulder, the world class outdoors community, seems to have forgotten to represent and accommodate a significant part of its rich recreational user demographic...the mountain biker. Let's build that trail.

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  62. I am a west of broadway resident, and I fully and wholeheartedly support a trail for Mountain Biking from Chatauqua to Eldo and beyond.

    Jon Sargent
    South Boulder

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  63. I have been biking in and around boulder for 12 years and have always thought that its strange that there is very few options for biking right from town. I am very excited to see more trail access for bikes and I think that a connection west of Broadway would be enjoyable for those that love to ride.

    Brian
    6237 Willow Lane

    -East Boulder

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  64. I fully support the creation of a MTB trail from Chatacqua to Eldorado. Given the objections voiced in the Camera letters page, I would prefer an entirely new trail that is open to all users but with an emphasis for MTBs

    Chad
    Lyons, CO 80540

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  65. I fully support a trail west of broadway between Eldorado Springs and Baseline Rd.
    Local access to trails and a diversity of recreational activies has been one of the things that sets Boulder apart from other cities. I hope that we embrace this advantage and make the most of it in the future.

    Elias
    26th and Jay
    East Boulder

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  66. I live in the South Neighborhood and fully support additional bike trails, especially if one can ride from Shanahan ridge area in both directions, town or Eldorado Springs.
    Brad Boyce
    3456 Cripple Creek

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  67. I support a new and or existing trail for mountain biking West of Broadway, East of the Mesa Trail, From Baseline Rd to Eldorado Springs Drive. I also support the idea of it being like Betasso where certain days of the weeks are dedicated to mountain bikes and the other days are hiking.

    Byron Murray
    East Boulder

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  68. Boulder Open Space, regardless of who manages the land, does not encourage mountain biking opportunities equitably. Walkers, runners, and foot travel consistently receive more space. The shame is that there is plenty of room for all of us. More paths for bikers.

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  69. I am all for more mountain bike trails being built in Boulder, especially in South Boulder. This trail would allow cyclist to enjoy the exploration of the base of the foot hills from Baseline to Elorado Canyon without impacting the current users experience on the Mesa Trail. Boulder is often noted as a premier cycling destination, except it lacks mountain bike trails and trails that can actually be accessed by bike to the trail head and not a car. Since the population has grown on the front range, the need for expanded trails is needed to reduce congestion and create a better outdoor experience. Strategically, this may lead in to the possibility of an off-road trail system that links several systems from Boulder County to Jefferson County.

    Jamie E.
    Denver, CO

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  70. I fully support the creation of a trail between Eldorado Springs and Baseline west of Broadway. Getting cyclists off of the roads with easier access to trails would be a win-win situation for many parties. There are a lot of cyclists in Boulder who do not have or choose not to drive to trail heads, and the addition of this trail would give cyclists much greater access to MTB trails without having to ride on roads.

    Neven Steinmetz
    4489 Hamilton Ct.
    Martin Acres
    East Boulder Neighborhood

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  71. As a hiker, mountain biker, dog walker and mother, I fully support a trail with mountain bike access between Eldorado and Chautauqua. Mountain bikers have shown that they are a group of organized, enthusiastic and capable volunteers who are willing to build a sustainable trail for all users to enjoy.

    I look forward to showing the beauty of that area to my family, and in doing so, also demonstrate to my toddler that sharing isn't just a lesson taught at home, but one that is practiced every day.

    I live less than a block east of Broadway, and am concerned that this means my opinion won't be given the same weight as someone a few hundred feet to my west. Though we reside in different neighborhoods, we are all part of the same community.

    Please take the opinion of myself and my family into consideration.

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  72. As a hiker, mountain biker, dog walker and mother, I fully support a trail with mountain bike access between Eldorado and Chautauqua. Mountain bikers have shown that they are a group of organized, enthusiastic and capable volunteers who are willing to build a sustainable trail for all users to enjoy.

    I look forward to showing the beauty of that area to my family, and in doing so, also demonstrate to my toddler that sharing isn't just a lesson taught at home, but one that is practiced every day.

    I live less than a block east of Broadway, and am concerned that this means my opinion won't be given the same weight as someone a few hundred feet to my west. Though we reside in different neighborhoods, we are all part of the same community.

    Please take the opinion of myself and my family into consideration.

    // Forgot to include my neighborhood information last time

    Kristin Butcher
    1289 Aikins Way
    East Boulder

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  73. I fully support an off-road trail for cyclists between Chautauqua and Eldorado. This would be a great connector for Boulder cyclists. As it stands you need to take a car to access most of the mountain biking trailheads in the area. More mountain biking trails accessible from town would be fantastic.

    Jason Bartell
    East Boulder
    Spine Road and S. Orchard Creek Cir.

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  74. I am FULLY and STRONGLY in support of any and all trails in Boulder, especially South Boulder, to encourage more cyclists to enjoy off road bicycle use. Mountain bike trails are in the best interest of the physical and ecological health of the community, period. More bikes, more bike trails =less cars/bike/multi-use conflicts and accidents.

    Julie Emmerman, South Neighborhood

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  75. I fully support a trail for mountain biking West of Broadway, East of the Mesa Trail, From Baseline Rd to Eldorado Sprigs Drive. We have very limited moutain biking options near Boulder, and I support a trail as a way of treating bikers equitably.

    Brian Lazar
    Bri


    Brian Lazar

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  76. As a South Boulder resident I fully support a trail open to mtn biking south of Baseline to Eldorado springs drive, East of the Mesa trail and west of Broadway. Mountain bikers are responsible trail users and responsible stewards of the environment. It is only just that Mountain bikers have use of at least 1 trail in this area, there are 30 miles of trails open to Mountain bikers on city land and over 300 miles to hiking etc.

    Thank you for your consideration,
    Best, Christopher (Botsy) Phillips
    3655 Berkley Ave.

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  77. I fully support a trail from Chatauqua to eldorado. It will greatly add to safety of getting to the new trails and would mean that I would not have to get into a car.

    Jason McGowin
    3685 Silver Plume Lane
    Shanahan Ridge

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  78. To add to my last comment, I support the connector trail as someone who runs/hikes with my dog and child on Shanahan Ridge at least 5 times per week. As a runner and hiker I have never had any conflict with mountain bikers. Plus the proposed bike trail would have little impact on the most popular hiking trails on Shanahan ridge and would in fact add a new trail to the area for all to use.

    Jason McGowin

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  79. Boulder open space should include a north-south mountain bike trail, along with a connecting trail to existing and future trails to the west. The north south trail would be useful for commuting and recreation. It reflects poorly on boulder as a progressive outdoor community that this is not the case. Just because some (significant fraction of) mountain bikers are self-absorbed etiquette flouting douchebags does not alter the validity of this.

    Matt pufall
    Benthaven place

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  80. I would like to see some trail access for bicycles in the West TSA, preferably a north-south connector similar to the Mesa Trail.

    Kara Franke
    24th St
    East Boulder

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  81. I consistently see car/bike close calls on my rides in South Boulder. I live next to Harlow Platts Park (S. Boulder Rec Center) which is a neighborhood full of children. Having a trail we can access on our bikes from the neighborhood would be a huge opportunity for the children to exercise without having to dodge traffic. If we could then take our kids to the South Boulder trail system on dirt as opposed to the car filled roads, we would all be safer.

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  82. Originally from Golden, I grew up thinking that mountain biking single track on the front range was part of open space user experience. When I moved to Boulder 10 years ago, I quickly became frustrated with the mountain biking access in Boulder. I often find myself driving 30 minutes to go mountain biking on terrain that is similar to open space adjacent to my house. Open space that I for some reason paid a premium to live close to and continue to support through tax increases. When I do ride close to home I get filled with the feeling of being singled out and excluded from enjoying the true beauty of Boulder open space close to where I live.

    I have spoken to many open space users about this subject. It seems unanimous that people think it is fair to have some level of access to the west TSA for mountain bikers. The fact is that hikers don’t want mountain bikes on their trails and I understand that. As with any relationship, compromise is sometimes in order to make situations fair and to what is right.

    Asking for one 45 minute to an hour single track ride with significant elevation gain/loss within 10 min ride of boulder proper is a small compromise that ensures more equal access to open space for future generations.

    Thank you for listening.

    The Artale’s
    Gillaspie Dr.
    South Boulder

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  83. We have been living in South Boulder for the last 26 yrs. and have used the hiking trails as well as road & Mnt bike trails over these yrs. We are in support of having at least 1 designated mountain bike trail. (Not the current Mesa Trail or a multi-use trail as that is a recipe for disaster. Bikers, hikers, runners, children, & dogs do not mix well no matter how well mannered, well behaved, well intentioned, or courteous anyone may be. It comes down to a matter of physics & being "present in the moment".) A north - south mountain bike trail would be a great addition to the MANY hiking trails that currently exist west of Broadway. Depending on the surface of the trail (i.e. dirt only - consideration may be given to closing the trail when very muddy to minimize erosion. If the trail has a gravel surface, the need to close would be less likely.) Thank you for your consideration for a mountain bike trail west of Broadway!
    Mary Ann & Terry Davis
    3510 Smuggler Circle

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  84. I fully support a north-south trail which allows mtn. bike access. Not only will it take pressure off of the high traffic pathways along Broadway but will also reduce the # of cars driven by folks living west of Broadway to trailhead parking lots south of town.

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  85. West Arapahoe NeighborhoodAugust 14, 2010 at 6:31 PM

    I live near Eben G. Fine Park and support safe, limited & responsible mtn. bike access to trails. This is a safer option then Boulder Canyon and Flagstaff Road and up Table Mesa. There must be some access, it's better then having people get into polluting cars to go biking and safer then being on the road.

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  86. I live off Table Mesa near Bear Canyon Trail. I would love to be able to mountain bike in the area without having to drive far from where I live. There are countless trails in the Boulder area and most don't allow bikes. Opening just a few to bikes would make a huge difference. Even limited times and days would be great.
    Zachary Feldman
    1138 Green Cir
    Boulder, CO

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  87. My husband and I have lived in South Boulder since 1986. We have 3 children and we are all avid cyclists. We ride for transport, sport, and pleasure.
    Our oldest daughter (20) is a pro mtn biker.
    Our oldest son (18) has epilepsy and does not drive a car. He is a bike and bus only commuter and currently works in downtown Boulder.
    Our youngest son (11) is a new rider/ racer, cycling enthusiast.
    As the mother of 3 children, all or which spend a great deal of time on a bike in and around Boulder, I think it would be wonderful for our family and neighbors to have cycling friendly trail access to and from our neighborhood.
    Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
    Diana Tanner
    1580 Findlay Way
    Boulder

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  88. For a city that prides itself on encouraging an 'outdoor lifestyle', Boulder has embarrassingly few mountain biking trails accessible from town. The addition of new trails would not only alleviate congestion (and user conflicts) on pre-existing trails, it would reduce the amount of time mountain bikers have to spend in the car driving to distant trailheads.

    I recognize that the environmental impact of adding new trails has to be carefully considered. However, a well-designed trail can minimize impact and the areas where such trails are likely to be built already have large numbers of well-traveled hiking trails. Areas in south Boulder that seem ripe for new trails include: a connector between Shanahan ridge and the Springbrook/Doudy Draw trail system, and a connector between Eldorado Canyon and Walker Ranch.

    Noah Fierer
    827 Ithaca Drive

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  89. As a west of broadway resident, I would like to add my support for any new mountain bike trails. I would be particularly interested in seeing a trail run along the foothills near the mesa trail that would run from baseline (canyon would be even better) to Eldorado springs / marshal mesa or even further south. Of course I would like to see the same thing run to the north up to at least Heil ranch.

    Peter Lapidus
    North Boulder
    2029 5th St

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  90. Having lived in South Boulder for over a decade, I have had the pleasure of exploring and enjoying our various trail systems along with my family and dogs while always wishing that these amazing areas could be open to bikers as well. Given the use that I see on the various Mesa trails, I would not support opening many of these areas up to bikers, but could definitely see some mixed trail use opportunities or, preferably, a secondary singletrack trail that can open the Eldorado/Chataqua area to bikers as well as other mixed use opportunities. I would also personally volunteer time to help create/maintain such a system.

    Chris Davis
    2565 Yarrow Court
    Boulder

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  91. As a South Boulder resident and mountain biker, it is unfortunate that I can walk 100 feet to beautiful hiking trails, but need to ride ~4 miles on pavement to reach a mountain bike trail. I think that implementing a "multi use" trail or a separate bike trail altogether would make everyone happy.

    I think that boulder is top notch for all sorts of outdoor activities, except mountain biking. I've often heard from mountain bikers who live even in the city of denver that they feel the trail options are limited in boulder.

    Building a trail to connect south boulder to eldorado and/or chattaqua would open up a lot of options for 2-wheeled adventures, not to mention minimize car/bike accidents and unnecessary driving to and from trailheads.

    Marty Guess
    3450 Cripple Creek sq.
    Boulder, CO 80305

    martinguess1@gmail.com

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  92. Glad to hear the dialogue and want to extend my vote for a trail that connects South Boulder to the nice array of options on Marshall Mesa and Dowdy Draw.

    What about a connector from Shanahan Ridge, that would traverse the Bluestem trail area? Seems like that would work.

    AND - more than anything:

    YIELD to the UPHILL RIDER.

    DON'T WIDEN OUR SINGLETRACK...JUST PUT A FOOT DOWN AND WAIT.

    Sheesh.

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  93. As a west of Broadway resident, and a responsible mountain biker, I would love to see some fair and reasonable mountain biking access from my home.

    Mountain bikers are not the beasts that they are made out to be. Most are responsible people who happen to love a particular sport, like hikers, runners, and equestrians. I happen to do all of these, except horseback ride.

    Fair and reasonable access is all I am asking for. It can be done with minimal impact to other trails if done correctly.

    Jeff Harnsberger
    1197 Berea Dr
    Boulder

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  94. Burkhard Huegerich 1165 Edinboro Dr Boulder, CO 80305 (South Boulder)August 15, 2010 at 5:06 PM

    I am now living in this neighborhood for roughly 8 years and I would love the ability to start my mountain bike rides right out of my house without the need to either transport the bike by car to the appropriate trail heads or ride dangerous roads like Canyon Dr. to get to Betasso. Additionally being able to ride up to Walker Ranch or having a connection to the Marshall Mesa trails would be very much appreciated! Since I do hike those neighborhood trails at least as much as I would like to bike them I'd prefer a solution that is acceptable for both usage forms. Betasso tries to accommodate this with rules for riding/hiking direction and time slices but I think some posted rules like "Riders slow down when passing hikers" or "Hikers walk single file when bikers approach" together with an initial support by educating rangers could be helpful.

    By the way, mixed use trails present a potential saver environment for single hikers because bikers tend to show up more frequently since they move faster on average. This way a single hiker in stress could hope for a quicker help/support then with hikers only. Also Ranger on bikes could cover more area in support of the trails and users.

    Be save,
    Burkhard

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  95. We're a family in South Boulder that runs, hikes and snowshoes on open space. We would love to see biking added to the list of acceptable activities on appropriate trails. A trail from south Boulder to the Eldo area would be a great activity for kids and a nice recreation option for all. The existing Mesa trail and others very close to the mountains may not be appropriate. It seems like there's a lot of space to work with and I'm hopeful the managers of OSMP will become more open to managing the land for the benefit of all users.

    Baer Family
    Endicott Dr.

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  96. I find it pretty rediculous that I have to get in my car and drive at least 15 miles (most of the time out of the county) to ride my mountain bike, when there is trail access about 100 yards from my front door. I am not arguing that all trails west of broadway should be accessible to mountain bikes, but there are enough beautiful trails in the area to create a balance between users and not exile mountain bikers from their own neighborhoods.

    Ben Griffin
    1185 Bear Mountain Drive Unit C
    Boulder, Co 80305

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  97. As a resident of the Chautauqua area it's quite apparent that mountain bikes continue to be underserved in the West TSA area. They are simply looking for a connector trail to get down to Doudy Draw without conflict. If the hiker folks don't want to share a new trail with mountain bikes then it should be mountain bike only. This link is integral as part of an effort to reduce carbon footprint in Boulder. Why should a mountain biker have to drive his bike to the trails on his car when we're surrounded by all of these public lands? That seems absurd.

    Brian Barrett
    783 13th St
    Boulder

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  98. 2465 glenwood dr - east boulder (barely)

    I support the creation of new trails that are primarily, though not exclusively mountain bike accessible. I would also prefer the creation of directional trails as well, particularly during peak areas to improve safety.

    These trails can be very narrow single-track and this will make the mountain bikers happy with minimal impact to the environment.

    We can learn quite a bit from the ski industry which had major riffs between snowboarders and skiiers in the 80's and 90's. The widescale adoption of terrain parks and half-pipes alleviated huge amounts of user conflict and pressure between the two use-groups for the same resources.

    There are many options for hiking, and even horse-back riding and a considerable dearth for mountain bikers, given the number of people who engage in this activity. We are forced to drive to trailheads, while we have some of the best open space in the country in our back yards. There is plenty of room. Please give us equal access.

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  99. As a former resident of South Boulder and areas's West of Broadway, I strongly support the creation of mountain bike specific trails in Boulder County and also the opening up of existing trails to mountain bikes (perhaps on specific alternating days).

    Josh Whitney
    2556 Mapleton Drive
    North Neighborhood

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  100. Mike Muller
    2870 Darley Ave
    south neighborhood

    I feel there needs to be some compromise on this issue. I understand some of the safety and environmental concerns of the opponents to additional mountain biking and while I don't think mountain biking should be allowed on all trails, there needs to be more than there is currently. Boulder is seriously lacking access to good mountain biking that doesn't require a drive with my bike on top of my car. Either build a new trail or designate a small percentage of the current trails as multi-use with mountain biking only allowed on certain days.

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  101. Please make it a priority to bring more multi-use trails to the boulder foothills. it pains me to have to drive to go mountain biking on a decent trail. Thanks to everyone for their effort to make this a reality

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  102. Tim Shea
    730 Evergreen Ave
    North Neighborhood

    I have been riding bicycles in the Boulder area for almost 25 years - both road and mountain bikes. While I have always understood that the 'hiking lobby' was here and established long before mountain bikes ever existed I have never understood how a progressive city such as Boulder could eliminate an entire segment of its' population from using some of the local trail network. I feel that the time has come for Boulder to address this growing, maturing and deserving user group. One single trail from Chautaqua going south and connecting to the trails near Eldorado Springs makes alot of sense for Boulder mountain bikers and for the community on the whole. Gaining access on this simple north-south corridor would allow those who live in central and north Boulder to ride to the south Boulder trails and vice verse. The Betasso Preserve loop and its' dual user system is the kind of progressive trail usage most would expect from a place like Boulder. Let's try to use some of those same fair minded principles for new access to mountain bikers on trails west of Broadway.

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  103. I live in Table Mesa. I am a grandma and when my grandkids come to visit we all like to go mountain biking. It would be so much more convenient to get out of the house on the bike and continue on to trails instead of loading up two cars with bikes and start driving. What a waste on gas. The kids and I have been hiking on the trails nearby and they are always asking, why we cant ride right here. It doesnt make any sense. If the hikers are so scared, then designate several days a week for mountain biking, its up to them to take the risk and share. I have never met a mountain biker trying to run me off the trail when hiking. Its just they dont want to give it up, its nimby.

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  104. Just wanted to say I'm strongly in favor of creating new MTB trails in boulder county, and especially trails that are close in to town.

    With the amazing terrain that is available in open space, its a shame that the closest MTB trails are dull, flat, and boring like marshall mesa or the boulder res trails. How about some narrow twisty singletrack with challenging turns, rocks and obstacles, within riding distance of town? There isn't anything like that without having to drive 30 minutes. Hikers get plenty of challenge with 'black diamond' trails like bear peak. I'd like to see some black diamond offerings for bikes!

    If Boulder could have mountain biking that is even half as insanely great as the hiking here, that would really be something. There's so much potential here, both for 'mega loops' like flagstaff-walker-eldo, and for 'black diamond' challenge.

    Ben Burdette
    2227 Canyon Blvd

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  105. I fully support the building of new multi-purpose single track mountain bike trail in Chautauqua Park. I've been running the trails of Chautauqua for over 10 years and have always lamented the lack of mountain biking when there is so much open space. It seems that this trail(s) east of the Mesa Trail would be a great resource not only for mountain bikers but also for people who want trail options closer to home. Also, I like what some guy above said about getting some "nasty" riding in the area. I cant think of any other town I've been to that has mountains jutting out of it's flanks and doest have real single track riding options without having to drive. Lastly, I do not think that other trails should be open to mountain biking as these trails have enough traffic as is.

    Matt Battaglia
    565 Hartford Dr

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  106. I was shocked after moving from the east coast to see such fervent opposition to mountain biking here in Boulder. While there were some trail conflicts out in NY State, it was several orders of magnitude below those I observe today.

    Although there are many reasons why this tensions is so pronounced in Boulder proper, the largest contributor to the conflict is most likely the unfortunately negative prejudices held against mountain bikers. Characterized as careless, reckless, ignorant, or disrespectful, some feverishly believe that bikers should be outright banned from riding on any trails. What fails to be considered by some is that the same holds for hikers. While many hikers enjoy the OSMP land, nothing prevents others from going off trail, disrespecting dog restrictions, hiking in closed areas, and even defacing the OSMP (need I mention the repeated vandalism of our Third Flatiron). Mountain bikers are no different than hikers, runners, nor climbers.

    While the question of safety when sharing a trail between hikers and bikers can be a valid one, it is not to say that it cannot be remedied. Many communities have mitigated usage conflicts by creating designated trails for mountain biking, and active participation by the local mountain biking communities have managed to maintain excellent trail etiquette and trail maintenance (for instance, Fruita’s successful “Keep Singletrack Single” campaign). Although some tension may initially arise between hikers and bikers should some trails open to mountain biking, advocacy on both parts can make the ultimate transition a pleasurable one, benefiting both parties. Who knows, some might even consider hopping on a bike to ride some local trails.

    The current mountain biking ban on OSMP land is making mountain biking in Boulder virtually impossible, especially for someone who doesn’t own a car. My only options are to ride Marshall Mesa, which is not large enough to engender repeated use, or brave the 50mph traffic on Canyon Dr. on my way to the Betasso preserve, which I’ve had too many close calls in the past to justify the journey. Even simply creating a trail between Boulder and the Betasso preserve, thus eliminating dangerous situations on Canyon Dr., would be beneficial to Boulder community at large.

    Jonathan Bruneau
    3455 Table Mesa Dr
    South Neighborhood

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  107. I would love to see new trails created west of broadway. A trail between chataqua and eldorado would give us a place to ride close to home.

    Mike Dahl
    Gillaspie Dr
    South Neighborhood

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  108. Edinboro dr
    South Neighborhood

    I hike the mesa trails frequently and am always impressed w/ the natural beauty of the area. I wish I could see more in one day then I do on foot. Being able to enjoy more of the area on a mtn bike trail would be in line w/ what I like to do and why Boulder is such a great place to do it. Bikers should have the same right to enjoy the flatirons as anyone else. After all, we didn't vandalize the flatirons w/ the "CU" tag. I believe that was the climbing team.

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  109. Being able to connect from the Shannahan Ridge neighborhood to any trails on my mountainbike without riding busy roads would be great. I support the decision to grant trail access to mountainbikes.
    Stephen

    South Neighborhood

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  110. I live on sugarloaf mountain near the betasseo trails and would like to see them open on wendsdays and saturdays.

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  111. Dear West TSA Neighborhood Reps,

    I live west of Broadway, at 1305 Georgetown Road, and have been a Boulder resident for 21 years. I'm an avid hiker, climber, and cyclist. I've made my living as a cycling journalist and bike-touring guide, and raced bikes competitively for a decade here. I've spent thousands of dollars in bike-related businesses throughout my time in Boulder.

    In experience, cyclists, as a whole, are the least-addressed user group in the city and county, by far. This shouldn't be so, with nearly 1000 registered bike *racers* in town, let alone the thousands of recreational cyclists...Boulder should have vast cycling opportunities within reach of town...and currently, we do not. Especially for kids!

    I fully support LIMITED and RESPONSIBLE cycling access in the Shanahan Ridge area. Connecting Lehigh to Eldorado to the Marshall-Mesa trails would be a fantastic step towards improving cycling infrastructure in Boulder. This would need to be done with input from BMA, IMBA, and the hiker/equestrian crowd, too--it's completely possible (see Sun Valley, Durango, Tahoe) to create trails within reach of town, on which everyone can have a good, safe time.

    Sincerely,
    Robert V. Coppolillo
    1305 Georgetown Road
    Boulder, CO 80305
    720.530.1188

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  112. My wife and I think it time that the West TSA open space be opened to some sort of access for cyclist. Our community is surrounded by amazing trail systems which are designed specifically for multiple types of use. It's time that those same engineering skills are applied to this area.

    When we lived back east there were many studies done by the forest service and city which showed that cyclist on trails was no more damaging than hiking or running.

    We recently moved from the unincorporated area in the foothills above Boulder to North Boulder so, we could leave as close to open space as possible.

    It is our hope that the West TSA CCG process will yield a connector trail which lead from Linden, south to the Marshal Mesa area. We like to ride in that area and currently, have to get in the car and drive down or ride on the City streets which is not much fun.

    This trail should be designed and built to support all users and not limited to a single user group. We all pay tax dollars to support open space and would like to be able to enjoy, walking, hiking, birding, looking for wild flowers and wildlife as well as riding our bikes.

    Gary Gomulinski
    North Neighborhood
    736 Quince Circle

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  113. steve colorado ave.August 18, 2010 at 5:42 AM

    this is getting crazy
    there MUST be trail access for mtn bikes.
    how can all of these comments be PRO mtn bikes on trails and the trails remain closed??
    People need to stop being scared of cyclists. there are some obvious trails that should remain off limits but most could easily allow bikes.
    the great part is that the mtn bikers would build the trails for free. that = no labor cost
    it's a no brainer Boulder. get with the program

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  114. Hello,
    I'm a "West of Broadway" 20 year resident and support the creation of MTB trail that is rideable from town. Although it may look like there is many miles of MTB trails available--the vast majority is not single track and much of it is double track "dirt road" type of riding, which honestly is not that enjoyable for MTB'ing. The Boulder MTB community is very much underserved (evident by seeing many of our neighbors at the parking lot trail heads in Jeff Co. and in Nederland). The Boulder MTB's need and desrve better access to trails.
    John Canova
    810 Hawthorn

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  115. Steve C. 4406 Greenbriar Blvd.
    South Neighborhood

    Please provide a biking and hiking trail that connects south boulder with Walker Ranch.

    Thanks for all the new trails in this area! They eliminate many car miles and reduce crowding on the trails.

    ps: I welcome and respect fellow bikers, hikers, trail runners, dogs, and horses.

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  116. I fully support adding more access to mt. biking to this town...most outdoor friendly towns have this option. Why can't we figure it out?

    My spouse and a friend have been pressed by some of the opposing faction to agree with them on this issue; people living at the edge of open space. Their opposition does not ring authentic. Rather than make decisions from a place of fear of what might happen (and often stated as "only a few" riders will be testosterone infused speedsters) let's consider proactive ways to address the worries. Change requires getting past one's fears.
    Pam Rantilla
    South Neighborhood
    1340 Fairfield Dr.

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  117. 3455 Table Mesa Drive D-138, Central Neighborhood

    As an avid mountain biker who recently moved back to Boulder from Breckenridge, I miss the opportunity to ride right out of the house on dirt. Dedicated bike trials would alleviate any conflicts and have minimal impact on the open space (hopefully only a foot or two).

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  118. 3235 5th St, North Neighborhood - Gordon Byrn

    I would welcome the increase in trails throughout the city, specifically a safe way from North through to both Walker Ranch and Betasso.

    My preference is multi-use trails that are open to the entire outdoor community of users.

    g

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  119. We are avid cyclists and would love the opportunity to mountain bike closer to our home. It is a shame to put our bikes on our car and drive up to Walker or Hall Ranch (though we love those trails). We live in such a beautiful place and it would benefit us all to have sustainable, respectful trail use for cyclists right here in our gorgeous back yard.

    Ashley Shires
    2854 11th St
    Boulder, CO 80304

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  120. As a resident of 13th street south of Baseline, I resent the stance of a FEW of the individuals in the West of Broadway area saying they represent the "majority of opinion" in my neighborhood at city meetings and in letters to both city officials and the local paper. They certainly do not represent the four square blocks surrounding my home, where EVERY household supports allowing mountain bikes on local trails. In fact, we - and I DO speak for the majority in my immediate neighborhood, want to see mountain bike ONLY trails included in any future improvements for the Boulder Open Space and Parks, particularly in the Chautauqua area. Hikers and equestrians have their trails. Either they learn to share, or they allow us to enjoy the open space trails that I used to enjoy back in the late 70s when I could legally ride on trails like the Mesa Trail. Barring mountain bike only trails, I would like to see several days of the week where mountain bike access is allowed, weekends could be off limits due to heavy use. I hike often on weekdays and many trails near my home are under utilized (read "empty") during those days. Use by bikers should be allowed. Thank you for considering my comments, and for supporting the extension of rights to mountain bikers and to all trail users.

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  121. I strongly support the creation of a mountain bike trail connecting Boulder with the Eldorado Springs area. Because of the high pedestrian traffic on the Mesa trail, I don't think that it makes sense to open that to mountain bikes. From Shanahan Ridge to Eldorado Springs though I think that a mountain bike accessible trail could be created which uses parts of the Big Bluestem trail and another unofficial trail through the area.

    I would also like to see a new mountain bike trail from Shanahan Ridge north to Chatacqua, but would rate that as lower priority given the greater difficulty in locating that section of the trail.

    Joe Esch
    South Neighborhood
    2970 Juilliard St.

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  122. I support the creation of a MTB trail from at least Table Mesa to Eldorado. I think an entire entirely new trail that is open to all users, but with an emphasis for MTBs would work best. The exception being perhaps some sections of existing trails that are also fire/emergency access roads and can accomodate both users. The emphasis on MTBs should disuade hikers from using this trail and avoid complaints given the fair warning. I think a few more MTB trails that allow for connecting loops via off-road trails or hardscape bike paths would also have some beneficial economic benefits to the community with people from nearby communities driving short distances to Boulder and reducing larger scale environmental impact from people in Boulder driving significant distances out of Boulder to bike.

    Steve Dundorf
    1037 Berea. Dr.
    South Neighborhood

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  123. I support the creation of new mountain bike trails in the ares near Boulder. We enjoy all kinds of outdoor activities around Boulder, but biking is in particular one activity that our whole family can do and enjoy. There will always be some tensions, but responsibly interactions between bikes and other uses is typically the norm.

    Adam Fedor
    3765 Britting Ave
    South Neighboorhood

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  124. I support trails in the West Boulder OSMP that allow MTB. Southwest Boulder, specifically this considered trail from Chautauqua to Eldo, would be very valuable. I understand the 'conflict' between bikers and hikers and think a more specific trail for bikes, runners, etc., would be more appropriate here. The Mesa Trail system as configured now is not very conducive to bikes anyway -- there are a lot of wonderful hiking trails here.

    John Hereford
    3rd and Evergreen
    Boulder
    North(west) neighborhood

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  125. I would love to be able to ride with my kids from South Boulder to the South Mesa Trailhead. Ideally this would be from the NCAR road or thereabout, but certainly from somewhere on Greenbriar. Right now, it's just not safe to get there on roads. There's either a treacherous crossing of Hwy 93 or a ride along a shoulderless Eldorado Drive.

    It should be able to route a trail that crosses, but doesn't use, the N/S Shanahan Trail loop, and obviously stays off the Mesa Trail. I think that a bike route starting at Chautauqua would be a disaster, seeing how congested those trails already are.

    I also think that a new trail would take care of many concerns regarding erosion. Old trails and social trails were never designed with erosion in mind. A new trail can be.

    Alan Bol
    3390 Everett Drive
    (S. Neighborhood)

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  126. The dearth of mountain bike trails in Boulder is a travesty. As is said here over and over, the access to high quality biking trails in town Boulder is truly lacking, and is much needed for those of us that love the sport. Bikers and hikers get along fine in many areas. There are some conflicts, but for example there are conflicts with dog owners and non-dog owners. And it is far from what dominates interactions between those two groups on trails. And the same is true on multi-user trails around the country.

    Jake Schepps
    5th and Maxwell

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  127. North Neighborhood

    I support building new trails within the West TSA that are accessible to mountain bikes. Providing a system where mountain bikers can access the north and south trail systems via trails rather than a meandering zigzag connection of roads and multi-use paths makes good sense. The fact that the center trail system is closed to mountain biking forces many people to drive north or south, especially families who wish to ride with their kids. Connecting the trail systems as Boulder County Open Space is doing minimizes driving and maximizes access for all.

    Kate Rau
    1165 Oakdale Pl

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  128. I love mountain biking and I want to ride singletrack to work every morning! Connecting different trail systems and different parts of town with TRAIL(good trail) needs to happen. Moutain bike rides should start when we leave our front door, offroad cyclist should have access to trail that spans the county North, South, East and West.

    Chris R
    2820 6th Street
    North Neighborhood

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  129. I live on the Hill and would love a chance to ride my mountain bike from my home. The trail access for mountain bikers in Boulder is really poor. It was definitely surprising moving to one of the best outdoor towns and finding no mountain bike trails in town. It is pretty pathetic.

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  130. I strongly support creating mountain bike paths in the western OSMP, specifically the area between Chautauqua to Eldorado. Boulder is such a wonderful place to live for so many reasons - but the mountain biking leaves a lot to be desired. Having to drive to ride a bike is a significant drawback for several reasons.

    Matt Connery
    213 Gaillardia (Chautauqua)
    Boulder 80302

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  131. I would like to see more Mountain Biking access on the trails in Boulder. I live in the Devil's Thumb neighborhood where there are several trail access points. My husband and I have 2 young children (1yr & 3yrs old) and we would love to be able to share our love of mountain biking with them on the trails near our house.

    For several years we lived in San Francisco (before returning to CO) and we spent much time hiking AND mountain biking on the trails in Marin County and the south bay. There seems to be a great balance between hikers dog wakers and mountain bikers on the trails in Northern California. I'm sure Boulder with it's smaller population can find a similar balance.

    Frankly, I think Mountain Bikes pose a lesser threat to children than dogs on the trails. At least 2 times this summer my 3 yr old son was approached by unleashed dogs and was scared to the point of crying. One unleashed dog actually ate a snack out of my son's hand. My son was petrified ... and the owner yelling "don't worry the dog is friendly" didn't seem to assuage his fear of an animal twice his size running towards him.

    Brenda Puccio
    2435 Briarwood Drive
    South Neighborhood

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  132. I'm a neighbor, albeit not by this definition.
    I walk or ride to the city open spaces and do not support any additional parking to reduce any influx of users.
    I support a north south trail providing access to between chautauqua & eldorado - the south boulder creek & bobolink trails are nice but more suitable for flat city biking.
    I also support an east west trail into the mountains. yes, i too have been hit by a car returning from a ride in the mountains.
    I'm not asking to bike the mesa trail like the old days, just something scenic off the road.
    with regards to user conflicts, well designed trails can limit speeds and conflicts.
    Hopefully dogs won't have more rights than mountain bikers.
    Thank you
    alexey davies
    1851 23rd st

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  133. Dan H - Shanahan RidgeSeptember 8, 2010 at 9:38 AM

    I AM a resident/homeowner in the South Neighborhood (SW in fact) and moved to the area (and paid the high price & taxes for such privilege) SPECIFICALLY because the trails there do NOT have mountain bikes on them. I love the outdoors and am a multi-sport recreationalist. I am also a father of two beautiful children who's introduction/experience in this world has largely been frolicking about the trails in my back yard.

    Mountain bikers are the largest group involved in user conflicts. This is because their use doesn't always synch well with others (pace, impact, consideration, safety, etc) and the vibe is (in general) more typically a selfish, consume & move on with disregard to others attitude. I'm sorry to stereotype but it's only going to take one irresponsible mountain biker mowing down a child to blow it for everyone.

    As a mountain biker myself ... sure. It would be "neat-o" to have a link that goes to Eldo from the north. That doesn't mean it is a NEED by any means. It is a WANT. If you "have to" satiate the yearnings of a small but vocal group, build a new trail.

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  134. What we need is not an exlusive but inclusive trail use policy. All users groups should be able to enjoy these areas. I am a hiker, mt. biker, climber and runner. I understand the concerns of each user group but like to think from each user group's point of view. To me, the only winning formula is one in which we make space for everyone and each group gives respect to the other. Education of each trail user groups is part of the solution. If it's really that much of an issue create an online certification course for the user groups that explains how to act on the trails and respect other user groups as well as report abusers. As an example, the cyclists could take a course designed to address the issue of approaching hikers at high velocity, learning to call out to the hiker from a certain distance when approaching and not passing the hiker at any more than a slow speed. Fast cyclists cause fear of a collision and then resentment. Right of way to hikers would be reinforced. You want to ride on the few trails in Boulder County that are on the so called "certified trail" list....take the certification course, print out your card and carry it with you. Don't have a card while on one of the few "certified trails", you get a warning and then a fine. Put a sign at the trial head and notify the user groups. It's not that we should exclude certain user groups, it's that we should educate. In this way the respectful users are not lumped in with the abusers. And the abusers get educated. The certification are for everyone, hikers, biker, climbers. That level of involvement, if done properly, could create a population of caring users more interested in taking care of other user groups and their needs and lessen the numbers of complaints. Everyone's got a right to be out there! Let's celebrate our different user groups and enjoy the joy we feel while respecting their chosen method to enjoy our beautiful lands. Sean

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  135. Dave Kuhny
    7338 Mount Sherman Rd.
    Longmont (Gunbarrel)
    East Boulder

    Boulder has a great tradition of integrating bicycles as transportation and recreation into our communinty. However, we have serveral holes in our trail networks (like Western access being discussed here) that force bikers to either get in their cars, or ride on busy roads. I strongly support additional connector trails in the West TSA (and yes I would use them from Gunbarrel). This not only gives bikers a safer option, but we can cut down on vehicle use and trailhead congestion. Connections from town to our most popular mountain bike destinations will be a trail system other communities envy and enhance quality of life for many Boulder residents.

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  136. I am not a mountain biker but I enjoy the OSMP trails for trail running specifically ultrarunning where can spend all day running trails. I feel that the mountain bike community is not given the same opportunities that trail runners have and I don't think that is fair. Most of the mountain bike routes are comparatively short routes that do not connect and when I run I can run forever on linked trails. The trails that are shared by mountain bikers are some of my favorite trails to run on. They are fun, runnable and the mountain bikers that I have encountered have ALWAYS respected right of way and been very polite. I have more trouble with hikers straddling 3 wide on the Mesa Trail than I do on the mountain bike trails which is why I prefer them for more peace and quiet. I think what OSMP has done with Picture Rock (which I did some trail work on) and the Dowdy and Marshall Mesa trails is wonderful and fun! I would expect that these new proposed trails would only enhance my experience running on trails as they have in those areas and I fully support the new trails.
    Kristen Alvarez
    3765 Smuggler Place
    Boulder, CO 80305
    South Boulder

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  137. I am excited the community is coming together in support of this in such an organized fashion. I fully support more mountain biking trails in Boulder. I especially like the idea of a connector route West of Broadway that is easier to access from town. I look forward to helping make this a reality.

    Mark Winchester
    3133 5th St.
    Boulder, CO
    North Boulder

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  138. Over the course of the discussion or argument from the opposition, I hope the miles of trail that are currently open to bikes that resemble more of a dirt road or a paved path are not cited as legitimate mountain biking trails. While these trails serve a great purpose, it is really not an "apples to apples" argument if they are used as a statistic in citing how many miles of trail currently open to mountain biking.

    Mark Winchester
    3133 5th St.
    Boulder, CO
    North Boulder

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  139. I ride nearly every single day during the summer and yet I find myself driving to a place to ride every single day as well. Why? Because I can't access the trails I would like to ride (Betasso and Doudy Draw) from my home in south Boulder. This posses a consequence of driving my car and emitting massive amounts of CO2 which I feel terrible about since I like to be green as possible, not to mention I work for a solar company here in Boulder. I would love to see new trails created west of Broadway that alleviate this dilemma. A trail between chataqua and eldorado would give residents in my area a place to ride close to home and lessen automobile traffic of bikers trying to drive to these areas.

    Kyle Cragin
    1501 Bradley Dr
    South Neighborhood

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